Finished Lenny's back catalog, or want the same depth from different voices? These shows bring the same kind of operators and the same specific, how-it-actually-worked conversations about product, growth, AI and careers. Ranked for how close they come.
We did not rank these from memory. TL;WL has transcribed 978 episodes of 7 of these shows to build its research library, so we know what each one actually covers.
Claire Vo (founder of ChatPRD; has been chief product officer at LaunchDarkly, Color and Optimizely)
screen-share interviews and solo tool reviews · 25-45 min · about twice a week · since 2025
Why it is #1: Each episode ends with something you can try the same day, and the guests show the actual workflow instead of describing it.
What it is like: A guest shares their screen and walks through one AI workflow step by step, or Claire tests new tools herself. It is closer to a live tutorial than a talk show. Part of the Lenny's Podcast network.
How can I use Claude Code or Cursor to prototype as a PM without being an engineer?
What does a real AI workflow for writing PRDs look like?
How did other companies roll out AI coding tools across their teams?
Which new AI model or agent is worth switching to this month?
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No Figma. No Jira. No docs. How Gusto built a new product line with Claude Code | Eddie Kim (CTO).A concrete case of a team building a product without the usual PM artifacts.
Why Reddit built its own AI prototyping tool | Blair Metcalf.Shows how a large product org changed the way it prototypes.
Nikhyl Singhal (founder of Skip, a career coaching service for product people; former CPO at Credit Karma and product executive at Meta and Google)
career-focused conversations and panels · 55-65 min · every two weeks · since 2023
Why it is #2: Career advice for PMs is usually generic; this show gives specific frameworks for job moves, promotions and negotiation from someone who has hired and coached hundreds of product leaders.
What it is like: Nikhyl talks through career decisions with product leaders and recruiters, drawn from real coaching conversations. Calm, structured, and focused on what to do next in your career.
Marc Baselga (co-founder of Insider Loops, a PM interview and career coaching company). Ben Erez (co-founder of Insider Loops)
two co-hosts plus a guest · 60-80 min · weekly · since 2024
Why it is #3: It covers the parts of a PM career that other shows skip: interview loops, take-homes, offers and negotiation, with current detail from people who hire.
What it is like: Two hosts talk through hiring, interviewing and careers for product people, often with a recruiter or hiring manager as guest. Conversational and specific about how hiring actually works.
How do I negotiate comp for a PM role at OpenAI or Anthropic?
What are behavioral interviews at AI labs looking for now?
Should I join an early-stage startup as the first PM?
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#131: Inside comp negotiation for PM roles at top companies like OpenAI and Anthropic | Colin Lernell (Co-founder @ Valued).Concrete negotiation advice for top-paying PM roles.
#57: What product leaders get wrong about strategy | Melissa Perri (board member, author of Escaping The Build Trap).One of the show's strongest craft episodes, with a well-known guest.
long-form interviews · 60-70 min · every few weeks · since 2020
Why it is #4: The interviews go further into the reasoning behind decisions than most, and the product leader episodes are some of the best available.
What it is like: Brett interviews founders, CPOs and other executives and keeps pulling for the tactical detail behind their decisions. Many product leaders from companies like Figma, Linear, Stripe and Xero.
Should I stop obsessing over the roadmap, and what should I focus on instead?
How did Linear keep its focus on craft as it grew?
What makes or breaks an executive hire?
How did a company find product-market fit after a pivot?
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Why great product leaders should stop obsessing over the roadmap | Diya Jolly (CPO & CTO of Xero).A CPO's case for what matters more than the roadmap.
Inside Linear: Why craft and focus still win in product building | Karri Saarinen (Co-founder and CEO).A detailed look at how one of the most admired product teams works.
Aakash Gupta (writes the Product Growth newsletter; former VP of Product at Apollo.io)
long-form interviews and masterclasses · 60-75 min · about weekly · since 2024
Why it is #5: The masterclass episodes are among the most detailed free walkthroughs of pricing, growth loops and AI product work.
What it is like: Mix of guest interviews and long how-to sessions on pricing, growth and AI product work. Detailed and fast, aimed at PMs who want to level up.
How do I become a product builder who ships prototypes with AI?
How do I think about product strategy now that AI changes the cost of building?
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Pricing Masterclass: Everything you need to know about SaaS Pricing.The first episode and a complete primer on SaaS pricing.
Evals are the new PRD. Here is the playbook with the CEO of the leader in the space (Ankur Goyal, Founder and CEO, Braintrust).A practical guide to evals, now a core skill for AI PMs.
Peter Yang (writes the Behind the Craft newsletter; has led product teams at Roblox, Reddit, Twitch and Meta)
interviews and live tutorials · 35-50 min · weekly · since 2024
Why it is #6: It regularly gets builders from AI companies such as Anthropic and Cursor to show their workflows step by step.
What it is like: Peter interviews people building with AI, often with a live demo of how they work. Recent episodes range from AI agents and coding workflows to personal finance and parenting uses of AI.
Lily Smith (product consultant and long-time host for Mind the Product). Randy Silver (product leader and trainer, co-host for Mind the Product)
interviews · 35-50 min · weekly · since 2018
Why it is #7: Eight years of weekly episodes on core PM practice, with many guests who work on normal-sized teams rather than only famous companies.
What it is like: Two hosts interview one product person per episode, often speakers from Mind the Product and ProductTank events. Practical, friendly, and a manageable length.
Teresa Torres (author of Continuous Discovery Habits; runs Product Talk)
case-study interviews with AI product teams · 60-75 min · every two weeks, with gaps · since 2025
Why it is #8: Each episode is a full case study of a shipped AI feature, which is hard to find anywhere else.
What it is like: Teresa interviews the team behind one AI product and goes through how they found the problem, prototyped, built evals and shipped. Technical in places.
How did other teams go from AI prototype to shipped feature?
How do I build trust and safety into an AI product?
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Building Lorikeet: How AI Humility and a Dual-Agent Architecture Are Redefining Customer Support.A clear example of an AI product designed around knowing its limits.
Creating Aha! Builder: Concept to Code, No Engineers Required.How an established product company built an AI app builder.
Dave Gerhardt (founder of Exit Five, the B2B marketing community; former CMO at Drift). Dan Murphy and Exit Five team (dan Murphy is CEO of Exit Five and appears on company episodes; other episodes are hosted by the Exit Five team and guest marketers)
interviews with B2B marketers, plus solo 'Dave Unfiltered' episodes, live session recordings and 'Best of B2B' replays · 35-55 min · several episodes a week · since 2021
Why it is #9: Every episode is about the job of a B2B marketer: programs, team structure, budgets and career moves. Guests are practitioners from companies like Snowflake rather than celebrity speakers.
What it is like: Working B2B marketers explain how they ran a specific program, such as ABM, webinars or content, in plain talk. The tone is casual and practical.
How do I run B2B webinars that actually produce pipeline?
What should an ABM program look like now that buying groups are bigger?
How do I build a content strategy my CEO will back?
How do I market with a small team and not chase every channel?
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Why You Should Slow Down and Market Intentionally to Make an Impact (with Ann Handley).Ann Handley on doing fewer, better marketing programs, a useful counterweight to volume-driven content plans.
Top 5 B2B Webinar Mistakes (and How to Fix Them) with Logan Lyles, DemandShift.A concrete checklist episode you can apply to your next webinar.
long-form interviews with founders about their 0 to 1 stage · 45-60 min · weekly · since 2022
Why it is #10: It sticks to one subject, the path to product-market fit, and gets founders of companies like Reddit, Gusto, Glean and Huntress to give specifics about their earliest stage.
What it is like: Each founder explains the period before and around product-market fit: early customers, failed versions, pivots and the first sales. The host keeps pulling the story back to what changed and why.
How do I tell if I actually have product-market fit?
How did other founders get their first enterprise customers?
Should I charge from day one or give the product away to get traction?
What do founders do when a free product spreads but nobody uses it?
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WebSummit Panel w/ Founders of Glean ($5B) and Huntress ($2B): What it takes to hit $100M ARR.Two founders compare how they went from early fit to scale.
Best for: Pre-seed to Series A founders still searching for fit
Skip it if: You already have strong fit and want scaling, hiring or exit advice.
Ben Gilbert (co-founder and co-host of Acquired, former software engineer and venture capitalist). David Rosenthal (co-founder and co-host of Acquired, former venture capitalist)
two co-hosts telling the full history of one company · 3-4.5 hours · about once a month (Apple lists it as biweekly) · since 2015
Why it is #11: It explains business models, pricing and competitive advantage through real company histories, which helps you reason about your own company's position.
What it is like: Two hosts walk through one company from founding to today, then break down why it won. Episodes are long and heavily researched.
Brian Balfour (founder of Reforge; former VP of Growth at HubSpot). Fareed Mosavat (formerly at Reforge and Slack)
No new episodes lately, archive still worth it
two co-hosts talking, sometimes with a guest · 40-50 min · stopped; last episode 14 October 2025 · since 2023
Why it is #12: The analysis of growth loops and distribution is still some of the sharpest available, but treat it as an archive: the show has not published in over a year.
What it is like: Two growth experts break down recent product launches and strategy moves at companies like OpenAI, LinkedIn and Google. No new episodes since October 2025.
Are moats dead now that AI makes products easy to copy?
How do AI companies use growth loops?
How is distribution changing because of AI?
What can I learn from LinkedIn's gamification?
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OpenAI’s Land Grab: Are Moats Dead? How Startups Can Still Differentiate - Unsolicited Feedback S3E7.A clear framework for thinking about differentiation in AI.
Adam Nash Explores the Art of Process-Strategy Fit at eBay and LinkedIn, with a Side of Diet Coke and Legos.A useful idea on matching process to strategy, from a former LinkedIn and eBay product leader.
Best for: Growth PMs and product strategists
Skip it if: You want current news; the most recent episode is from October 2025.
Products That Count (A nonprofit for product managers; each episode has a product leader interviewing another product leader)
interviews · 30-40 min · about twice a week · since 2015
Why it is #13: It covers industries most PM shows ignore, such as health, hardware and enterprise software, with new episodes twice a week.
What it is like: Short interviews with CPOs and product leads from companies such as Carta, IBM, WHOOP and DoorDash, including a CPO Rising series. Not the same as Teresa Torres's Product Talk.
What makes a PM stand out as AI handles more of the work?
How does a CPO build the case for a bet no customer asked for?
How do product leaders think like business operators?
How do PMs at hardware or health companies work differently?
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CPO Rising Series: Carta CPO on Why Knowing What to Build Matters More Than Ever.A clear take on how deciding what to build matters more as building gets cheaper.
The Conviction Bet No Customer Asked For and How Asana's CPO Builds the Case for One.Practical advice on getting support for a product bet.
Best for: PMs who want a wide range of industries and company types
Skip it if: You want a consistent host voice or very deep episodes.
Jason Knight (product consultant who runs One Knight Consulting)
long-form interviews · 50-70 min · every two to three weeks · since 2020
Why it is #14: It has interviewed most of the major PM authors, including Marty Cagan, Teresa Torres, April Dunford and John Cutler, and Jason challenges them instead of just agreeing.
What it is like: Jason asks hard but fair questions, with dry British humour, and mixes well-known authors with working practitioners. Less hype than most PM shows.
Does AI actually change product management fundamentals?
How do I move my company to the product operating model?
Why do PMs need to understand the company's financials?
How do I fix positioning for a B2B product?
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Jeff Patton: AI Doesn't Change Product Management Fundamentals.A grounded counterpoint to the AI hype, from the author of User Story Mapping.
Transforming your Organisation to the Product Operating Model (with Marty Cagan, Author "Inspired", "Empowered" and "Transformed").Cagan explains the product operating model and Jason presses him on how it works in practice.
YC partners (Garry Tan, Harj Taggar, Diana Hu, Jared Friedman and others)
mix: partner discussions (Lightcone), founder talks and interviews, how-to episodes · 15-60 min · about weekly, often several episodes a week · since 2017
Why it is #15: YC partners see more early-stage companies than almost anyone, and the how-to episodes turn that into specific advice. The Lightcone episodes give a regular read on where early-stage startups are heading.
What it is like: A mix of YC partners discussing what they see across hundreds of startups, short how-to episodes (sales, ideas, launch videos), and interviews with well-known founders. Strong AI focus in 2026.
Practical depth first: does an episode leave you with something you can use at work on Monday? Then the quality of the hosts and guests, whether the show is still publishing, and how consistent it is. Fame counts for little. Listener numbers are shown only when the show or a credible source has published them, with a link to where; we never estimate them. Facts were checked in October 2026.
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