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Best podcasts · Updated October 2026

The 17 best startup and SaaS founder podcasts, ranked

The best podcasts for people building software companies: finding the first customers, pricing, hiring, fundraising or not, and the years of grind in between. Ranked for honest, specific lessons.

We did not rank these from memory. TL;WL has transcribed 1,868 episodes of 12 of these shows to build its research library, so we know what each one actually covers.

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1

Startups for the Rest of Us

Rob Walling

host with a co-host or guest, plus listener Q&A and founder case studies · 25-45 min · weekly · since 2010

Why it is #1: Over 850 episodes from a host who has bootstrapped, sold and funded SaaS companies, and it still comes out every week. The listener Q&A episodes give direct answers to the questions small founders actually have.

What it is like: A calm, practical conversation about running a small software company, often answering listener questions by name. Episodes stay close to SaaS operations: pricing, hiring, marketing, exits.

4.9
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 706 ratings
Apple Podcasts, 2026-10-31
131K
YouTube subscribers (Rob Walling channel, where episodes are posted)
YouTube channel page, 2026-10-31
281
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 34 min, 47 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • How do I know if my SaaS idea is worth building before I write code?
  • When should a bootstrapped SaaS hire its first developer?
  • What do buyers look at when I want to sell my SaaS?
  • Which marketing channels still work for a small SaaS now that AI answers search queries?

Start with

  • Episode 855 | The Eight SaaS Moats that Still Work in the Age of AI. Recent and practical: Rob's list of defenses a small SaaS can still build when AI makes copying software cheap.
  • Episode 732 | Lessons Learned Bootstrapping to a $615M Exit. A full bootstrapped arc from start to a very large exit, told with specifics.

Best for: Bootstrapped or lightly funded SaaS founders, from idea to a few million in revenue

Skip it if: You are raising large venture rounds and want hypergrowth playbooks.

2

The SaaS Podcast

Omer Khan

long-form interviews with B2B SaaS and AI founders · 40-55 min · weekly (with occasional gaps of 2-4 weeks) · since 2014

Why it is #2: Each episode is a focused case study on getting and keeping customers, with revenue figures. The archive of almost 500 founders covers most B2B SaaS situations.

What it is like: One founder per episode walks through how they got their first customers, priced, sold and handled churn. The host asks for numbers and specific steps rather than life stories.

4.8
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 189 ratings
Apple Podcasts, 2026-10-31
15,000+
combined reach (audio, YouTube, newsletter) B2B SaaS and AI founders and operators
SaaS Club sponsorship page, 2026-10-31
30,000
ad plays per month (podcast packages) to 45,000
SaaS Club sponsorship page, 2026-10-31
8.73K
YouTube subscribers
YouTube channel page, 2026-10-31
492
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 47 min, 37 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • How did other founders get their first 10 paying customers?
  • Can I sell a B2B SaaS before the product is built?
  • How does founder-led sales work when I have no sales team?
  • What do I do when ChatGPT turns my product into a commodity?

Start with

  • First SaaS Customers: How Wade Foster Got 800 Paid Beta Users. The first episode: how Zapier found paying users before launch, still a useful model.
  • Selling a SaaS Before Building It: $1M ARR in Six Months. A recent, concrete example of pre-selling a B2B product.

Newsletter: SaaS Club newsletter, 5,000+ subscribers (SaaS Club website)

Best for: B2B SaaS founders between idea and roughly $10M ARR, especially on go-to-market

Skip it if: You want news, opinion or banter between hosts rather than structured founder interviews.

3

MicroConf On Air

Rob Walling

short tactical episodes and conference talks · 10-20 min · every two weeks · since 2020

Why it is #3: It condenses MicroConf's years of bootstrapped SaaS talks into 15-minute tactical episodes. A good companion to Startups for the Rest of Us when you have less time.

What it is like: Short, single-topic episodes on running a profitable SaaS, plus recordings of MicroConf conference talks in the archive. Easy to finish in one commute.

5
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 10 ratings
Apple Podcasts, 2026-10-31
9.94K
YouTube subscribers
YouTube channel page, 2026-10-31

Bring it questions like

  • What do private equity buyers expect from a SaaS before they make an offer?
  • Why do SaaS customers cancel, and what can I do about it?
  • How would I start a SaaS from zero today?
  • Should I add AI features to my SaaS, and which ones are worth it?

Start with

  • MicroConf Refresh Episode 2: Designing the Ideal Bootstrapped Business: Jason Cohen, Founder, WP Engine. A well-known talk on choosing a business model that suits a small founder.
  • MicroConf Tactics: The Real Reason SaaS Customers Cancel (here's how to fix it). A recent short episode on churn with direct fixes.

Best for: Bootstrapped SaaS founders who want one tactic per episode

Skip it if: You want long interviews or venture-backed growth stories.

4

A Product Market Fit Show

Pablo Srugo

long-form interviews with founders about their 0 to 1 stage · 45-60 min · weekly · since 2022

Why it is #4: It sticks to one subject, the path to product-market fit, and gets founders of companies like Reddit, Gusto, Glean and Huntress to give specifics about their earliest stage.

What it is like: Each founder explains the period before and around product-market fit: early customers, failed versions, pivots and the first sales. The host keeps pulling the story back to what changed and why.

5.0
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 86 ratings
Apple Podcasts US show page, 2026-10-31
302
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 43 min, 69 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • How do I tell if I actually have product-market fit?
  • How did other founders get their first enterprise customers?
  • Should I charge from day one or give the product away to get traction?
  • What do founders do when a free product spreads but nobody uses it?

Start with

  • WebSummit Panel w/ Founders of Glean ($5B) and Huntress ($2B): What it takes to hit $100M ARR. Two founders compare how they went from early fit to scale.

Best for: Pre-seed to Series A founders still searching for fit

Skip it if: You already have strong fit and want scaling, hiring or exit advice.

5

Y Combinator Startup Podcast

YC partners (Garry Tan, Harj Taggar, Diana Hu, Jared Friedman and others)

mix: partner discussions (Lightcone), founder talks and interviews, how-to episodes · 15-60 min · about weekly, often several episodes a week · since 2017

Why it is #5: YC partners see more early-stage companies than almost anyone, and the how-to episodes turn that into specific advice. The Lightcone episodes give a regular read on where early-stage startups are heading.

What it is like: A mix of YC partners discussing what they see across hundreds of startups, short how-to episodes (sales, ideas, launch videos), and interviews with well-known founders. Strong AI focus in 2026.

4.5
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 220 ratings
Apple Podcasts US show page, 2026-10-31
2.43M
YouTube subscribers
YouTube channel page, 2026-10-31

Bring it questions like

  • How do I pick a startup idea?
  • How do I improve my outbound sales as an early founder?
  • What should a launch video for my startup look like?
  • What is changing for startups now that anyone can build software with AI?

Start with

  • How To Pick A Startup Idea. YC's standard advice on choosing what to work on.
  • 8 Ways To Improve Your Outbound Sales. Short and directly usable for founders doing their own sales.

Best for: Venture-track founders, especially technical founders building with AI

Skip it if: You are building a small bootstrapped business and want profit-first advice.

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6

In Depth

Brett Berson

long-form interviews with founders and executives, including the 'Executive Function' series · 45-70 min · every 1-4 weeks (a two-month gap before the 28 Oct 2026 episode) · since 2020

Why it is #6: Made by the team behind the First Round Review, it aims for tactical detail rather than origin stories. Useful once you are hiring and managing people.

What it is like: Detailed interviews where the host asks how a specific thing was done: hiring executives, a pivot, building a sales team, management habits. Guests are founders and leaders at companies like Supabase, Figma, Plaid and Gamma.

4.8
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 60 ratings
Apple Podcasts show page (US store), 2026-10-31
30.7K
YouTube subscribers (First Round Capital channel)
First Round Capital YouTube channel, 2026-10-31

Bring it questions like

  • How do I hire my first executives?
  • How did Gamma handle its pivot to AI?
  • What do startups get wrong when they sell to enterprise?
  • How should a founder run a team as the company grows?

Start with

  • How Supabase became the essential infrastructure for the AI era | Paul Copplestone (Co-founder, CEO). A detailed account of how a developer tool built its position.
  • How Gamma pulled off their AI pivot | Jon Noronha (Co-founder and CPO of Gamma). A specific, recent pivot explained step by step.

Newsletter: The First Round Review, 200K+ subscribers (First Round Review site ("Why 200K+ readers subscribe to The Review"))

Best for: Venture-backed founders and early leaders building teams

Skip it if: You are a solo founder without a team yet.

7

Rogue Startups

Craig Hewitt

host solo episodes and interviews with SaaS founders · 35-55 min · weekly · since 2014

Why it is #7: The host runs a SaaS company while recording, so topics follow the problems he is working on that week. It has come out close to weekly through 2026.

What it is like: A working SaaS CEO talks through what he is dealing with now, such as marketing, hiring, co-founders and AI, and interviews other founders about the same problems.

5
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 23 ratings
Apple Podcasts, 2026-10-31

Bring it questions like

  • How do I do marketing in two hours a week?
  • When and how should I pick a co-founder?
  • How do I hire people now that AI does some of the work?
  • Is AI making SaaS growth harder, and what are small companies doing about it?

Start with

  • Your Product Is Now a Wrapper Around Go-To-Market | Hiten Shah. A clear argument from an experienced SaaS founder about why distribution now matters more than features.
  • RS322: Marketing, in 2 hours a week. A practical marketing routine for founders with little time.

Best for: Bootstrapped and small-team SaaS founders who like an operator's point of view

Skip it if: You want polished, heavily researched interviews with famous guests.

8

The Official SaaStr Podcast

Jason Lemkin

interviews and conference talks with SaaS operators and investors · 40-65 min · weekly · since 2016

Why it is #8: Close to 900 episodes on scaling B2B SaaS revenue, with guests who run sales at companies like Databricks, Stripe and ElevenLabs. Most useful at the scaling stage.

What it is like: Mostly recorded talks and interviews from SaaStr events with CROs, CEOs and investors at larger SaaS and AI companies. Heavy on go-to-market, sales and, in 2026, AI agents.

4.6
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 177 ratings
Apple Podcasts, 2026-10-31
244K
YouTube subscribers (SaaStr AI channel)
YouTube channel page, 2026-10-31
1
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 28 min, 52 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • How are SaaS companies using AI agents in sales?
  • How should I price an AI agent product?
  • How did fast-growing AI companies build their sales teams?
  • What are VCs funding in B2B software right now?

Start with

  • SaaStr 880: Agent Pricing is Chaos. Here's What We're Seeing From the Buyer Side. (The Agents #015). Current, specific discussion of how buyers react to AI agent pricing.
  • SaaStr 816: PLG to Enterprise to SMB: Insights from Calendly's CEO. How a well-known product-led company moved between market segments.

Newsletter: SaaStr newsletter, 200,000+ subscribers (SaaStr media sponsorship page)

Best for: Venture-backed B2B SaaS founders and go-to-market leaders past early traction

Skip it if: You are bootstrapping below $1M ARR; most guests run much larger companies.

9

The Startup Podcast

Yaniv Bernstein. Chris Saad

two co-hosts teaching, plus guest interviews and masterclasses · 45-60 min · weekly (one gap of about ten weeks in Aug-Oct 2026) · since 2022

Why it is #9: It explains startup fundamentals in a structured way rather than through one founder's story, which suits first-time founders.

What it is like: Two experienced operators explain startup topics such as fundraising, strategy and product in a structured, teaching tone. Recent episodes focus on building with AI coding agents.

4.9
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 39 ratings
Apple Podcasts US show page, 2026-10-31
1
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 45 min, 30 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • How do I raise venture capital for the first time?
  • How do I find out what customers will pull from me rather than push my product on them?
  • How should a small team build software with AI agents without creating a mess?
  • What is the difference between a startup and a small business?

Start with

  • Rob Snyder demonstrates his PULL framework in real-time - using Yaniv's startup. A live demonstration of a customer-demand framework applied to a real startup.
  • Edu: What is a Startup? - An Antidote to Small Business Syndrome. The first episode, setting out how the hosts define a startup.

Best for: First-time, venture-minded founders who want frameworks

Skip it if: You prefer real case studies with revenue numbers over frameworks.

10

Starter Story

Pat Walls

short case-study interviews with small business and app founders · 10-20 min · about twice a week · since 2023

Why it is #10: A steady stream of small, concrete examples with revenue numbers, useful for finding ideas and seeing what one-person businesses look like.

What it is like: Quick interviews where founders of small apps, SaaS and websites share their revenue, how they built it and how they got users. Light and fast, close to the YouTube videos.

4.3
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 6 ratings
Apple Podcasts US show page, 2026-10-31
893K
YouTube subscribers
YouTube channel page, 2026-10-31
82
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 15 min, 73 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • What kinds of simple apps make $10K a month?
  • How did someone build a micro-SaaS to $30K a month?
  • How long does it take to get a small app to real revenue?
  • What boring website ideas still make money?

Start with

  • How I Built It: $30K/Month Micro-SaaS. A compact walkthrough of a small SaaS from build to revenue.
  • I Make $30K/Month From the Most Boring Website on the Internet. Shows how a simple niche site (Excel Exercises) earns money.

Newsletter: Starter Story newsletter, 300,000 subscribers (HubSpot blog post on the acquisition (updated 24 Feb 2026))

Best for: Aspiring and early indie founders looking for ideas and proof that small products can earn

Skip it if: You want depth; episodes are short and revenue figures are self-reported by guests.

11

Founders

David Senra

solo: one entrepreneur biography per episode · 40-70 min · weekly · since 2016

Why it is #11: It is the largest audio library of entrepreneur biographies, and it helps with thinking about focus, persistence and how lasting companies were built.

What it is like: The host reads a biography and talks through the ideas he took from it, with many quotes. Subjects range from Rockefeller and Sam Walton to Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos.

4.8
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 2,287 ratings
Apple Podcasts US show page, 2026-10-31
142K
YouTube subscribers (David Senra channel)
YouTube channel page, 2026-10-31

Bring it questions like

  • How did Sam Walton build Walmart with so little capital?
  • What can I learn from how Steve Jobs kept products simple?
  • How did Rockefeller think about costs and competition?
  • What did history's best founders do with their time and focus?

Start with

  • #388 Jeff Bezos's Shareholder Letters: All of Them!. Covers all of Bezos's letters in one episode on long-term thinking.
  • #434 Sam Walton. A frugal, practical founder story that suits bootstrappers.

Best for: Founders who want long-term perspective from business history

Skip it if: You need tactics for your SaaS this week; this is history, not how-to.

12

The Bootstrapped Founder

Arvid Kahl

No new episodes lately, archive still worth it

solo essays read by the host · 10-25 min · was weekly; no new episode since 3 Apr 2026 · since 2020

Why it is #12: Over 400 short episodes from a founder who has bootstrapped and sold two companies. The show has paused since April 2026, but the archive is still useful.

What it is like: Short solo episodes, each an essay from the host's newsletter on bootstrapping, audience building and building in public. No new episodes since April 2026.

5.0
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 37 ratings
Apple Podcasts US show page, 2026-10-31
269
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 21 min, 18 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • How do I build an audience before I have a product?
  • Is building in public still a good idea now that AI makes copying easy?
  • How can I use Claude Code to build serious software as a solo founder?
  • What is the real moat for a small software business?

Start with

  • 1. The FeedbackPanda Story. How the host built and sold his first SaaS, the basis for his later advice.
  • 439: The Increasing Risk of Building in Public. The latest episode, rethinking building in public when competitors can copy you in days.

Newsletter: The Bootstrapped Founder

Best for: Solo and indie founders building audience-first businesses

Skip it if: You want interviews or a show that is currently publishing.

13

Indie Hackers

Courtland Allen. Channing Allen

No new episodes lately, archive still worth it

long-form interviews with indie founders · 50-65 min · was weekly; last episode 15 Jun 2023 · since 2017

Why it is #13: 283 episodes with many of the best-known indie founders (Pieter Levels, Sahil Lavingia, Wade Foster). No new episodes since 2023, so treat it as an archive.

What it is like: Relaxed, curious interviews with founders of small profitable online businesses about ideas, growth and life as a founder. The feed has not published since June 2023.

4.9
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 493 ratings
Apple Podcasts US show page, 2026-10-31
28
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 58 min, 0 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • How do solo founders like Pieter Levels make money from several small products?
  • How did Zapier find its first paying customers?
  • How do I grow multiple small products at once?
  • Should I stay indie or raise venture capital?

Start with

  • #241 - Money, Happiness, and Productivity as a Solo Founder with Pieter Levels (Part 1 of 2). The best-known solo founder explains how he runs his products.
  • #018 - Finding Your First Paying Customers with Wade Foster of Zapier. A classic on early customer acquisition.

Newsletter: Indie Hackers newsletter

Best for: Indie founders and side-project builders who want to hear from peers

Skip it if: You want current information; the newest episode is from 2023.

14

Software Social

Michele Hansen. Colleen Schnettler

No new episodes lately, archive still worth it

two co-hosts talking · 30-60 min · irregular; last episode 18 Jul 2026, described as a season closer · since 2020

Why it is #14: An honest, peer-level view of running small SaaS companies, with a host who runs a profitable API business. Currently between seasons.

What it is like: Two indie SaaS founders, one established and one earlier, talk about what is happening in their businesses. Friendly and unscripted. The show has had long breaks and ended its latest season in July 2026.

4.8
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 29 ratings
Apple Podcasts US show page, 2026-10-31
66
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 35 min, 5 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • What competitive advantages can a small SaaS have?
  • How do I move from coding to selling as a technical founder?
  • How do I negotiate with customers?
  • How are other small founders using AI in their work?

Start with

  • Talking Competitive Advantage and Moats for Small SaaSes, Part 1. A practical discussion of how small SaaS companies defend themselves.

Best for: Technical indie founders who like conversational shows

Skip it if: You want structured advice or regular weekly episodes.

15

Bootstrapped Web

Brian Casel. Jordan Gal

No new episodes lately, archive still worth it

two co-hosts talking · 55-75 min · irregular since 2025; last episode 30 May 2026 · since 2013

Why it is #15: Over ten years of honest, behind-the-scenes updates from two founders who have bootstrapped, raised and pivoted. Mostly an archive now.

What it is like: Two founders give candid updates on their businesses, from bootstrapping to raising money and exits. The show paused in January 2025 and now posts occasionally; the hosts publish weekly on The Panel podcast instead.

4.9
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 58 ratings
Apple Podcasts US show page, 2026-10-31
169
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 50 min, 3 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • What is it like to move from bootstrapping to raising venture money?
  • How do I build a business while still employed?
  • What happens when you shut down a product and pivot?
  • How do two founders set yearly goals and review them?

Start with

  • Building out of a job. Practical discussion of starting a business while employed.
  • Our final episode (for now). The hosts' own review of the show's run and what they learned.

Best for: Founders who want the emotional and decision-making side of startups

Skip it if: You want tactics or regular new episodes; the hosts' newer show The Panel is the active one.

16

Build Your SaaS

Justin Jackson. Jon Buda

No new episodes lately, archive still worth it

co-hosts documenting their own company, with occasional guests · 45-90 min · irregular; last episode 17 Apr 2026 · since 2018

Why it is #16: A rare long-running, open account of one bootstrapped SaaS from early days to a stable company. New episodes are now rare.

What it is like: The founders of Transistor.fm share how they bootstrapped their podcast hosting company, including revenue, hiring and team retreats. Episodes now come out a few times a year.

4.7
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 81 ratings
Apple Podcasts US show page, 2026-10-31
162
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 46 min, 1 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • How did Transistor grow as a bootstrapped company?
  • How do small startups hire their first employees?
  • How does a small SaaS convert most trials to paid customers?
  • How do I stay motivated when the company is no longer in startup mode?

Start with

  • What is Transistor's secret weapon?. The team explains the customer support approach that converts 75% of trials to paid.
  • Adam Wathan: how small startups hire employees (Tailwind CSS). Hiring advice from the founder of another profitable small company.

Best for: Bootstrapped SaaS founders who want to follow one company's real story

Skip it if: You want regular episodes or broad advice from many founders.

17

Indie Bites

James McKinven

No new episodes lately, archive still worth it

short interviews with indie founders · about 15 min · irregular; last episode 30 Oct 2025 · since 2020

Why it is #17: Over 130 short episodes with recognizable indie founders such as Marie Martens (Tally) and Justin Duke (Buttondown). A good archive, but publishing has stopped for now.

What it is like: Short interviews with founders of small, profitable, bootstrapped businesses about ideas, validation and first customers. No new episode in a year.

5.0
Apple Podcasts rating (US) from 12 ratings
Apple Podcasts US show page, 2026-10-31
15
episodes in the TL;WL library
median 16 min, 0 new in the last year

Bring it questions like

  • How do I sell my indie SaaS business?
  • How did Tally grow to $150K MRR without funding?
  • Why did Jack Ellis buy out his Fathom Analytics co-founder?
  • Should I build a local service business instead of an indie SaaS?

Start with

  • How Tally grew to $150k MRR in 5 years - Marie Martens. A clear bootstrapped growth story with numbers.
  • Andrew Gazdecki on the best way to sell your indie SaaS business. The founder of Acquire.com on selling a small SaaS.

Best for: Indie hackers who want short founder stories

Skip it if: You want depth or current episodes.

How we ranked them

Practical depth first: does an episode leave you with something you can use at work on Monday? Then the quality of the hosts and guests, whether the show is still publishing, and how consistent it is. Fame counts for little. Listener numbers are shown only when the show or a credible source has published them, with a link to where; we never estimate them. Facts were checked in October 2026.

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